talk.environment

Lay off him. He has AIDS

"Bill Ward" wrote in message
news:pan.2007.08.31.14.32.42.476506@REMOVETHISix.netcom.com...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:42:52 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
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> You can't run, Roger. Eventually you will have to confront what you did.
> I have considerable patience. Here are your lies for all to see:
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> Roger's initial claim is here:
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> Downthread you'll find in:
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> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:13:24 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
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>> On Aug 28, 4:49 pm, Bill Ward wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:00:31 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
>>> > On Aug 28, 2:29 pm, Bill Ward wrote:
>>> >> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:56:21 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
>>> > [ . . . ]
>>> >> > The energy non-equilibrium, 0,85+0.15 W/m^2 more in than out, and
>>> >> > response time, ~50 years, are both measured quantities, Rheims of
>>> >> > calculations will not change the measurements. PLease see:
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>>> >> > Hansen, J. et al. 2005b Earth's energy imbalance: confirmation and
>>> >> > implications. Science 308, 1431-1435.
>>> >> > (doi:10.1126/science.1110252)
>>> >> >http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2005/2005_Hansen_etal_1.pdf>
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>>> >> It's from a model, not directly measured.
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>>> > NOPE! You're just plain wrong.
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>>> >> First three words of the abstract are, "Our climate model".
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>>> > It pays to read beyond the first three words, Bill. It will keep the
>>> > egg of your face.
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>>> Of course I did, Roger. Exactly where does it say the energy was
>>> directly measured? Some ocean temperatures were sampled, and an energy
>>> estimate was made using models. In fact he specifically mentions "an
>>> artifact of incomplete sampling" at the top of the second column of
>>> page 2.
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>>> The egg is all yours. Enjoy.
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>> Spin, spin, spin! Spin and dance.
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> Spin all you want. You didn't read the paper and now you look like a
> fool.
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> Either point out exactly where the paper says the energy was directly
> measured, or admit you're the one that's "just plain wrong".
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> No extra credit for dancing.
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> Then he writes:
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> Poor, poor Bill.
> He lost a debate and now he's going to troll this newsgroup endlessly
> posting a fictional transcript he's written.
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> His natural instinct to lie his way out apparently overrides his memory
> that the group is archived. This could be a sign of serious mental
> illness. Not so much the lying, but the thought he can somehow skate his
> way out without any consequences.
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> If it's really a medical problem, I'm very sorry, but everyone needs to
> know he's not a reliable source.